{"id":18062,"date":"2022-01-18T11:30:00","date_gmt":"2022-01-18T10:30:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.munich-business-school.de\/insights\/?p=18062"},"modified":"2023-06-26T16:37:22","modified_gmt":"2023-06-26T14:37:22","slug":"professional-sport-and-studying-interview-with-mbs-students-lucas-kroger-heiner-langst-and-maximilian-maas-part-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.munich-business-school.de\/insights\/en\/2022\/professional-sport-and-studying-interview-with-mbs-students-lucas-kroger-heiner-langst-and-maximilian-maas-part-1\/","title":{"rendered":"Professional Sport and Studying – Interview with MBS Students Lucas Kr\u00f6ger, Heiner L\u00e4ngst and Maximilian Maas (Part 1)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

How can professional sport and studying be reconciled? The MBS students in the International Business<\/a> and Sports Business and Communication<\/a> master’s programs Lucas Kr\u00f6ger, Heiner L\u00e4ngst and Max(imilian) Maas have already had to deal with this question. Because the three of them practiced or still practice sport at a high level – twice on the pistes and once on a court. Wiebke Lehnert, Marketing and Communications Manager at MBS, met the (former) professional athletes for an interview. In the first interview episode, Lucas, Heiner and Max talk about how they came to professional sport, what their everyday sports life was like or looks like, and what opportunities, but also challenges sport holds, especially with regard to academic education.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Note: The interview was originally recorded as a podcast. This text is a transcription and translation of the audio recording. The audio version of the interview (only available in German) can be listened to here<\/a>. <\/pre>\n\n\n\n
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Wiebke Lehnert: Professional sport and studying \u2013 that\u2019s what we\u2019re going to be talking about today. My name is Wiebke Lehnert and I\u2019m the Marketing and Communications Manager at Munich Business School. I\u2019m here today with MBS students Lucas Kr\u00f6ger, Heiner L\u00e4ngst and Max Maas to chat a little about whether it\u2019s possible to combine professional sport and studying \u2013 and, if so, how. Not only are these three students at MBS, they are all also (former) professional sportspeople in various disciplines: one on a court and two on the pistes. But I don\u2019t want to give anything away; I\u2019d rather let the trio tell their own stories. So, let\u2019s get started. I\u2019d like to ask you to introduce yourselves briefly, tell us what your sport is, how long you\u2019ve been doing it, and how you ended up turning professional. Let\u2019s start with you, Lucas.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n
Lucas Kr\u00f6ger: Hi, I\u2019m Lucas, I\u2019m 29 years old and originally come from a small village near Hamburg. Handball\u2019s my sport and, as a lot of people probably know, handball is far more popular in northern Germany than in the south. I started playing at a very young age, about three or four years old. One of my father\u2019s co-workers founded a handball team with my best friends, so I really just played for fun for a while. Then, when I was about 16 or 17, I improved and started to play at a higher level, and that\u2019s when I received my first offers to play professionally. At the time, however, I decided against it. But then I came to Munich to study and, by chance, came into contact with a club from F\u00fcrstenfeldbruck [a town west of Munich]. That\u2019s where my professional career really began.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Wiebke Lehnert: And now, let\u2019s leave the sports hall for the pistes. Max and Heiner, what are your specialist disciplines?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n
Max Maas: Hi! I\u2019m Max and I\u2019m 27 years old. How did it all begin? Well, I\u2019d have to say I started skiing at a young age. I come from the south of Germany, from Lake Constance, where my grandfather was already an active member of a skiing club and served in various roles. So, I joined a run-of-the-mill skiing course and then one thing sort of led to another. I progressed from club level to the region, which was called Allg\u00e4u-Oberschwaben at the time, so everything around Lake Constance, and then it gradually became more professional. I represented the Swabian Ski Association (SSV) before moving up to the Baden-W\u00fcrttemberg Ski Association (BWSV) and then the German Ski Association (DSV). You asked us what our specialist discipline is. When it comes to ski sports, that\u2019s really hard to say. You start out as a generalist to begin with. Then, at the age of 14, I moved to Skiinternat Oberstdorf [a boarding school specializing in ski sports] to up the ante in terms of professionalism, to get better at what I do, and so I could live my dream. At the tender age of 14, you actually still do everything. Then, when I reached 16, 17 or 18, everything began to crystallize for me, and I saw myself more in the speed events of downhill and super G. So that\u2019s where my professional career went, and I became part of the national team in the speed events. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
Wiebke Lehnert: And what about you, Heiner?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n
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Heiner L\u00e4ngst: First of all, hello everyone, and thank you to Max, who\u2019s already spoken a little bit about what ski sports involve. How did I end up in skiing? I can say for certain that my love of sport is something I inherited. My parents \u2013 and my entire family, in fact \u2013 were active members of my hometown sports club, TSG Reutlingen. It was common practice to go skiing every weekend through the winter, whether in Allg\u00e4u or in the Swabian Alps or sometimes a little further afield, in Austria or Italy. And so, I ended up spending every weekend on two skis. The older you get, the more you start to think about competition, and then you start with your first races at regional level, as Max mentioned, and then the quality just increases and it gets more international. Then, at the age of 15, I was given the opportunity to decide whether to switch to the skiing boarding school in Oberstdorf \u2013 which meant moving away from TSG Reutlingen and taking my first steps in serious, competitive sport. I decided to do it and spent 10 years in high-performance sport at Skiinternat Oberstdorf and then Sonthofen, which I made my base.<\/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n
Wiebke Lehnert: Cool, thank you for introducing yourselves! As an outsider, I think we often have a romantic, glorified image of the sporting world. What comes to my mind, for example, is being on the road a lot, traveling and meeting amazing people. We sometimes forget that a professional sports career also involves a lot of work, training, and plenty of ups and downs. Could you paint a picture for us of what that world looks like? What did a normal day look like for you, Heiner, when you were one of the world\u2019s top skiers?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n
Heiner L\u00e4ngst: Yeah, I think it was probably completely different to how people picture ski sports. There was no apr\u00e8s ski, no lie ins, no time spent relaxing at the resort: instead it was getting out on the pistes early, using the good conditions early in the morning, starting to carve through the snow in the very first rays of sunlight. Of course, it was often extremely difficult, above all because we had to do it so many days in a row. You mentioned ups and downs, and I think that\u2019s certainly a big thing in ski sports, and in sport in general. The ups, the sporting successes; the downs, the injuries, the losses, they\u2019re an inevitable part of a career in sport. As a result, high-performance sport often isn\u2019t a fairytale world, but you still learn a lot from it and it\u2019s worthwhile. Of course, there are things that aren\u2019t fun, like waking up early and training hard, but nevertheless you know why you do it and, at the end of the day, I\u2019d say you always go to bed with a smile. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
Wiebke Lehnert: Okay, that actually sounds pretty stressful, especially having to wake up early. Does that actually leave any time for school and studying? And if so, how? You\u2019re all master\u2019s students at MBS, which means you\u2019ve already got bachelor\u2019s degrees. Did you opt for a special study format, such as distance learning or part-time study? Tell us your experience, Max<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n
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Max Maas: It\u2019s difficult, of course, to reconcile professional sport with studying and school. Heiner and I were on the same team, spending an awful lot of time on the road and, in the latter years, spending around 200 nights per year in hotels. When I look back at my senior years in high school, I was absent about 60% of the time; I spent more time traveling than I did at school. The same goes for my time at university. I\u2019d say that, when studying full-time at a normal university, that just isn\u2019t possible. But when you\u2019re in and around the national team and so on, that does tend to open certain doors. There are various programs that promote professional sport at university, which are offered at what are known as elite sports universities, and I opted for a program like that. I opted for Kempten because the university tried to accommodate athletes a little. It was like, \u201cMax, it\u2019s winter, so you\u2019re not around much \u2013 so, when can you sit your exam?\u201d I tried to arrange my schedule so that I did maximum of one or two exams over the winter. Of course, that made summer extremely stressful, because I tried to take on a larger study workload and take more exams so that I kept on track with my studies. All in all, you pay for what you want to achieve in high-performance and professional sport with your childhood and your free time. People I\u2019ve met have often said to me, \u201cMax, you just didn\u2019t have any free time growing up.\u201d And yes, that\u2019s true \u2013 but, as a professional sportsperson, it\u2019s an entirely different life you want to lead. There\u2019s a high price to pay. For example, when my sister had her 18th birthday party, her friends \u2013 who are also my friends \u2013 were all there, but Max was somewhere else around the world skiing. Of course, these are difficult decisions, and sometimes they hurt. But I think that professional sport is something to which you devote 100% of your energy, which makes you more willing to pay a high price for it. And sport gives you a lot of hugely emotional moments that you wouldn\u2019t get to experience as a \u201cnormal school pupil\u201d \u2013 and, to my mind, that balances the whole thing out.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Heiner L\u00e4ngst: I completely agree, Max. I think what you\u2019ve just said illustrates why we\u2019ve done what we have. I\u2019d just like to circle back to the question of why we chose to study alongside professional sport. You might think that we focus 100% of our attention exclusively on sport and then pursue a professional career afterwards. We\u2019ve already talked about the ups and downs; in my case, the downs were injuries. I suffered my first cruciate ligament rupture in 2012, which sidelined me for seven months. I was about to sit my school leaving examinations, so maybe it wasn\u2019t so bad that I got an injury at that time. (laughs) But that was also when I said to myself: \u201cMy career in sport could really be over in a matter of seconds.\u201d And, unfortunately, nobody can guarantee that you\u2019ll be able to recover to your previous level after an injury. There are so many incalculable possibilities that could lead you in a different direction or, potentially, even bring your career to an end. That\u2019s when I told myself that I didn\u2019t want that to happen and that I\u2019d like to be able to continue moving forward if I did suffer a stroke of fate. So, I started to think about how I could combine studying and sport. The German Olympic Sports Confederation was really supportive: they outlined the various options open to me and I decided to enroll on a part-time course in Ansbach, at the Ansbach University of Applied Sciences. It\u2019s an elite sports partner university and offers a program in International Management. The program is specifically tailored to the needs of elite sportspeople: it has a really, really flexible structure, which means that each athlete can tailor the course content to fit with their sporting commitments. That was a great way to study alongside sport. But the fact that you\u2019re studying shouldn\u2019t mean that you don\u2019t give your all in your sport. Quite the opposite: I always found that the opportunity to focus on entirely different things had a very positive effect. As Max said, we lived for sport, we thought about it 24\/7 and I think it\u2019s actually a good thing if you can switch off sometimes and think about something completely separate from sport. <\/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n
Wiebke Lehnert: Yes, these are interesting factors that must be considered if you want to combine studying and professional sport. But it also shows that there are some exciting opportunities for professional athletes like you that, as a casual athlete, I didn\u2019t really know about. That\u2019s fascinating. Lucas, I think that things were very different for you, weren\u2019t they? As you told us, you only really decided to pursue professional sport when you moved to Munich. And, if I\u2019m right, your sporting activities have always run alongside your studies and, even today, you\u2019re still active at a high level.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n
Lucas Kr\u00f6ger: Yes, exactly. So, I decided to pursue professional sport because everything just seemed to fall into place. To paint a picture for you, I\u2019d say I always did about four to five hours of handball training per day. And, unlike Heiner, I was doing it in the evening, not in the morning. And those four hours per day was just team training, time spent at the club, not including the work everyone put in individually. Matches took place on weekends. The matches were usually in southern Germany; we traveled over as far as the Saarland a lot as well as to eastern Germany and then all the way up to Berlin, and so on. It took up the entire weekend. It required a lot of coordination, because I had to reconcile normal life, my friends, my studies and everything else with sport. I had to adjust a lot to get it to work as it does now. I had a girlfriend in Frankfurt for a while and we also had some away games in the area. I would always travel a day earlier, spend the night with her and then drive half an hour to the game the next day before driving back to hers and then returning to Munich on Sunday \u2013 and getting back to my studies. There really is an awful lot to coordinate. The club in F\u00fcrstenfeldbruck made it possible to combine everything because they\u2019re sort of set up with this in mind. I\u2019ve already mentioned that handball is more popular in northern Germany than in the south, which means that not many handballers end up in Munich and the sport isn\u2019t as mainstream. So, the club relies on students deciding to move to Munich and being attracted by the opportunity for elite sport in F\u00fcrstenfeldbruck. As a result, I\u2019ve played with a lot of students there and it has worked out. 
I\u2019d also like to say something about the ups and downs. Of course, the ups are fair obvious: the victories, the promotions, and all the good feelings that come with it. However, there are a lot of downs, too. For one thing, there are the injuries, as Heiner and Max have already mentioned. To my mind, though, another part of team sport is the fact that I\u2019m reliant on the team and the team is reliant on me \u2013 and so it can also be a bit of a downer if you\u2019re sitting on the bench at the weekend. It isn\u2019t quite as bad in handball as it is in soccer because you don\u2019t sit on the bench the entire time and you can make a lot more substitutions, but it can still be really frustrating at times. As a goalkeeper, something that\u2019s really annoyed me for some time is that it\u2019s so cold in winter and I stand right at the back, which means I\u2019m on the receiving end of things \u2013 I just get the ball fired at me, basically. So, if it\u2019s cold in wintertime, you\u2019re frustrated and you\u2019ve not warmed up properly, it can hurt a lot more when the ball hits you! (laughs) And it\u2019s not great, because that can really get you worked up. Another down, in relation to my studies, was that I was more or less forced to miss out on weekend trips with my classmates \u2013 going skiing and so on \u2013 because I just didn\u2019t have any time. And then I would always see the photos and have to call my friends to find out what they\u2019d been up to. That\u2019s pretty rubbish. A good friend of mine always talks about going out partying in Munich. I would always catch them up later in the evening at 11:00, 11:30, 12:00, with my handball bag in tow, which I\u2019d have to leave in the cloakroom of the club! (laughs) That\u2019s sort of the image that\u2019s stayed with me. Despite all of that, I really enjoyed it because the handball club became a sort of second family for me; I spend so much time there and everyone has grown to be so close together that it\u2019s only natural. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
Wiebke Lehnert: Thank you for your insights, that\u2019s really interesting. Lucas, during your time abroad, you always played handball with other clubs and in other leagues. During your semester abroad in the USA in 2019, you even won the US Men\u2019s Elite Handball Nationals with San Francisco CalHeat. Could you tell us a bit about that? How does it all work when you\u2019re abroad? Do you just go to a team and introduce yourself? Funnily enough, you weren\u2019t even studying in San Francisco but in Florida.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n
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Lucas Kr\u00f6ger: Yes, that\u2019s exactly right. The story is actually connected to the fact that I had originally decided against pursuing a professional sports career but that it just seemed to work somehow in Munich. That decision just seemed to run on like a golden thread: I opted for a dual degree with Florida International University in Miami and, in doing so, sort of gave up professional sport in Munich. I can still clearly remember visiting my grandparents in Berlin when suddenly, at 5 am, the phone went and it was the coach and another player from this team in San Francisco. They had read somewhere, in the S\u00fcddeutsche Zeitung I think, that I was moving to America. They wanted to know whether I would play for them. So, we set everything in motion and the coach contacted me again on my second day in Miami to talk everything over in more detail. I have to admit, though, handball in America is a pretty different sport. Each team has a mixture of world-class and ninth-division players because they\u2019re dependent on players coming over from Europe as the sport isn\u2019t too established in the USA yet and hasn\u2019t grown much yet. That means that there\u2019s not many teams in the USA and you know what a huge country it is… If I tell you \u2013 as you mentioned \u2013 that I was living in Miami but playing for San Francisco, you can imagine the distances involved. It\u2019s opposite sides of an entire continent. As a result, the sport is primarily played in tournaments. So, there\u2019s tournaments once or twice a month and the team flies in, staying in a hotel for the duration of the tournament. My first tournament for them was in Chicago. I flew from Miami to Chicago to play for San Francisco! It was pretty crazy for me to begin with but I soon found my feet and it was really cool after that. I\u2019m a real fan of this internationality and the blend of cultures that\u2019s very prominent in the USA. And yes, as you mentioned, at one point I became an US champion with the team. That was in Myrtle Beach, in South or North Carolina, right on the coast. It was pretty cool. New York and Los Angeles, two fierce rivals, have usually been the winners \u2013 and when we won, I think it was the first time in 10 years that any team apart from New York had become champion. And I was able to play a part in that, which is also due in small part to the fact I\u2019m a goalkeeper. San Francisco had been missing a goalkeeper at the time, so I was able to make the position my own, which was really cool. The whole thing just kept going, really. I\u2019m living in France now, in Bordeaux, and I\u2019m playing for Girondins de Bordeaux, the local elite team. And it\u2019s just as much fun. That’s a bit of a gap that I’ve found for myself: to combine elite sport, where I already had experience, with this international background and focus. It allows me to position myself really well and it\u2019s sort of like a side job for me. (laughs)<\/p>\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n
Wiebke Lehnert: It\u2019s so cool that you\u2019ve been able to make it work and that you can experience internationality not only in your studies or elsewhere in your free time but also directly through your sport. I think that\u2019s great. Well, let\u2019s return to the less rosy aspects of it all. Heiner and Max, you\u2019ve already mentioned injuries and you both decided to leave professional sport behind you in 2018, in part because of injuries. I can well imagine that it must have been a difficult, emotional step. How did you prepare yourselves for it? Did you always know that you wanted to continue your academic education with a master\u2019s degree? And why did you choose MBS?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n
Max Maas: Well, I\u2019ll start. I have to say that, looking back, I was lucky that the decision was taken out of my hands because my knee had been severely inflamed for five years. I\u2019d tried various treatment methods but, unfortunately, cortisone was the only one that had an effect and it deadens everything in your knee. Afterwards, my knee would always be fine for one, two, maybe three months, but you can\u2019t keep injecting cortisone too often at the same location. They actually say you should only have it four times, but I had it six times. Then, when I visited our national team doctor, Manu K\u00f6hne in April 2018, he told me: \u201cMax, I can\u2019t give you any more injections. The risk is too high that, with the stress you put on it, your entire knee will blow up without you even really noticing it,\u201d \u2013 because, as he described it, the cortisone tranquilizes it. It was a tough decision, of course, but I think that the fact it was a decision taken by somebody else, someone I trusted completely and still trust today, meant I was able to live with it. I knew he wasn\u2019t just doing it for the sake of it but because there was no other way. At that point, I said to myself straight away: \u201cOK, now it\u2019s time to look forwards. We can\u2019t change any of this, it\u2019s just how it is.\u201d And, building on that, it soon became clear to me that \u2013 because I was still studying for my bachelor\u2019s degree in Kempten \u2013 I would complete it as soon as possible and then move directly on to a master\u2019s course. I also knew \u2013 living in Germany, a country obsessed with documents and certifications \u2013 that I wanted to get the highest possible qualification I could, a master\u2019s degree. Once I had made the decision, I started to look at where I could do it. I always wanted to remain faithful to sport because of all its emotion but, at the same time, also because of the business side of things, in terms of the finances and how does a club work, because it\u2019s no longer sloppy and unprofessional \u2013 they\u2019re run like real companies that generate income. But I also still wanted to stay close to the mountains, so Munich as a city and MBS as an institution with the Sports Business and Communication program<\/a> was a great fit for me. That meant that I was able, as I said before, to remain faithful to sport and combine it all with business studies. It is the perfect way to exploit and combine the worlds of sport, finance and business in pursuit of my future goals, to strike out on a new path, as I see it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Wiebke Lehnert: On the other hand, Heiner, you opted for the more general International Business master\u2019s program. What were the motivations behind that and what opportunities do you think studying at MBS offers you? And please do share with us the story of how you moved away from professional sport.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n
Heiner L\u00e4ngst: Yes, I think it actually makes sense, because the fact that I\u2019m studying here at Munich Business School is the result of a series of decisions I\u2019ve made over time. The biggest decision, of course, was turning my back on elite sport and ending my professional sports career. I decided to do so in 2018, not because of an injury \u2013 thank God \u2013 but because, in sport, we always talk about short-term and long-term goals. The Winter Olympics were held in Pyeongchang in 2018 and, in truth, ever since moving to the Skiinternat in Oberstdorf I mentioned earlier, that was always our goal, both for me and for Max. And so in 2018, when my performances meant that I didn\u2019t achieve that goal, I asked myself: \u201cOkay, do you want to spend another four years, another Olympic cycle, trying to get there? Or do you want to concentrate on your studies?\u201d In the period after my cruciate ligament tear, I also underwent two back operations as well as knee surgery. During that time, I always found time alongside rehab and everything else to press ahead with my bachelor\u2019s studies and, ultimately, obtain my degree. I just realized that I had other skills outside of sport that I wanted to use and develop further. So, I took the decision in 2018 and said to myself: \u201cOK, elite sport, that\u2019s been a hugely defining and enjoyable ten years but now I want to focus on my career after my sports career.\u201d I finished my bachelor\u2019s in 2019 and then I first looked for a way to catch up on the lack of practical experience that elite sportspeople are often said to have. I was 25 at that point and many 25-year-old students had far more practical experience than I did, so I just wanted to catch up. To begin with, I completed a range of internships before heading to Australia in 2020 for another internship. It was then that I considered what my next step should be. I knew that my contract was ending \u2013 and I wanted some certainty about what my life would look like after that. It became clear to me relatively quickly that I wanted to do a master\u2019s, even though I enjoyed working a lot \u2013 but, as Max said, it\u2019s just helpful to have taken the necessary steps in your academic education. With this in mind, I started looking at my options for a master\u2019s course while I was in Australia. Just like when I was thinking about how best I could combine my bachelor\u2019s with sport back in the day, I asked myself what my next step should be to move forward. I decided on MBS as the place I would do my master\u2019s degree in International Business<\/a>. And in response to your other question about why I didn\u2019t opt for the sport-related program and chose something rather more general instead. I\u2019ve already mentioned that my bachelor\u2019s degree was in International Management and I really enjoyed that. I saw a lot of places around the world through sport and I\u2019ve always loved traveling \u2013 I still do \u2013 and I\u2019ve always thought that this internationality, this global mindset, was very important. I try to incorporate it in everything I do. So, that\u2019s why I decided to do a master\u2019s degree in International Business, pretty much exactly what I studied in my bachelor\u2019s, and expand on that further. I told myself that because sport has always been something very close to my heart, it would always be a part of me. Thanks to professional sport, I\u2019ve gained a wide range of experience, including in relation to sponsors, in relation to in self-marketing an in realtion to various political decisions behind the scenes in elite sport. I felt very well prepared in this respect, so I wanted to learn more about the other side, the purely business side of it all. And, ultimately, the master\u2019s program in International Business seemed like the best solution.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Wiebke Lehnert: Cool, thanks for your insight. How about you, Lucas? You\u2019re also on the master\u2019s program in International Business \u2013 how did you come to sign up? Is sport \u2013 to put it perhaps a little bluntly \u2013 more of a very high-level hobby for you and you want to explore other avenues professionally?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n
Lucas Kr\u00f6ger: Yes, that\u2019s a blunt way to put it, but it\u2019s true, more or less. I\u2019ve said a few times that I took the decision at a really early stage and that I\u2019d stand by it and follow through. As a result, I wasn\u2019t faced with the decision of ending my career in professional sport and focusing completely on my career like Max and Heiner; instead, my decision was about what I wanted to study. I ended up choosing the International Business course because, like Heiner and unlike Max, I didn\u2019t want to focus too much on sport. As Heiner described, I\u2019ve already got plenty of expertise of meetings with sponsors, dealing with internal club matters, how everything else works together, and so on. I didn\u2019t want to close the door to other topics outside of sport. Then there was my bachelor\u2019s degree, which was in Business Psychology, so there was the question of whether I wanted to go further and deeper in that direction or look somewhere else. Back then, I actually planned to move into the consulting industry \u2013 even before my whole US adventure and all that. So, that was actually the main driver behind my decision to enroll on the International Business degree, obviously along with the internationality in the background which had always attracted me and which I can now continue to enjoy. So handball was, is and ultimately remains a sort of side topic in my head \u2013 but, luckily, I\u2019ve been able to squeeze a lot out of it! (laughs)<\/p>\n\n\n\n
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